and to quote hillary clinton, at a point, even though they all voted for it, and he was part of -- boehner was part of selling it, who cares. the point is at this point, get back to the table and come up with a plan, with a deal. the president has said i'm willing to meet with you. >> steve, if they say no revenue, where do the democrats go from here? >> i think they don't go anywhere. at this point, the process has stalled. there are no talks there are no back channel productions. this are no progress in reaching a resolution and we're really only eight days away. democrats cannot cave and give republicans everything they want, even though i think they're facing some pressure from the political establishment to try and do that in order to work something out. i think at this point all evidence suggests they're going to push into march. that the sequestration cuts are going to happen, and because they really have no choice there is no compromise on the table. there is no opportunity to really work out a deal with republicans who refuse to negotiate or accept any concessions. and with that i